2006 Real Wintrup' available again  by Gunni Heidler and a new version - this time a binaural mp3 -

"I think. As 'The  leading Kraan source I would feel funny NOT to mention this, on the other hand i will add: This is not a legit release, it is not sanctioned by Hellmut Hattler, the other Kraans, and especially not at all by Walter Holzbauer, so Gunni Heidler is not allowed to SELL it. BUT if you can trade music with Gunni, swap music, etc. then you won't step on Kraans toes. I have the older version (mp2 not mp3), myself, and its both fun and interesting, a timedocument! But I think its mostly a fan thing. Why Gunni does`nt try to make it a legit release is beyond me ..."  yes

 Real Wintrup Sample  
 "Don´t ask" Wintrup session w. Alto and Ingo  Bischof RIP 4:35mn  >>>  3.4 MB >>>
 "O.K.. Daniel, I don`t wanna end up in any hall of fame.... and the interview is far too long, but maybe it helps if I tell you some key statements of Alto`s interview. as far as I remember them. He talks about Wintrup, his split from Kraan, his own musical projects and what he is doing nowadys. About Wintrup he says that in spite of the fact that it started with some sort of siege - as it was the band "Erna Schmidt", that lived there and that Hattler had joined - and the rest of the Kraan-clan only came later for a visit, which lasted more than 10 years,- they all had a great time there. Except manager and soundman, Erna Schmidt soon left. (There must exist one recording of Erna Schmidt - at least of one track in the archives of German TV - from a documentary either about Kraan/Wintrup or about Krautrock... with or without Hattler I don`t remember). Over the years , he says, things became more difficult, due to a lack of order and due to the fact that some women obviously didn`t get on with each other. About his split, Alto says, that on the one hand there were musical problems between him and Ingo Bischof, as they both had a very different approach to music. He confirms though that Ingo Bischof joining Kraan, meant a lot of new ideas and a needed refreshment. The other thing was that he missed one or two gigs as he was on holidays and couldn`t make it in time. He insists he was never hanging around in Afghanistan while he should have been playing for Kraan - as someone told the public ...... Anyway it sounds a bit like Beatles during "Let it be" - times. His own band didn`t last long, as members left and joined the Hamburg-based "Inga Rumpf Band" - who could pay a lot more money... He himself played with other bands, including the "Release Music Orchestra" - and the Munich band "Embryo" (a band that still exists and plays some quite brillant Jazz-World-fusion). Meanwhile Alto Pappert is back in Berlin, where they all once lived during their early studies, works as an event- manager (as far as I remember) - and once in a while plays with local bands in local bars and clubs - among them one band playing mainly Hendrix- stuff with German lyrics(!). That sounds good fun. With the old mates from Kraan, he gets on well these days, and even joins them on stage sometimes. Alto confirms that Wintrup is now rented by some hunters`society, who were also somewhere around during the Kraan- days, but whenever they appeared had to retreat, as Kraan made a lot of noise on their instruments (and the animals were warned, I suppose)..... On April 29th, Kraan will play Altenbeken, which is about two hills from Wintrup - and maybe Kraan make a big noise- so that the rifle-men can hear them again...... I`ll bring my ear-plugs anyway. So, I hope this a bit of a help. A Happy New Year to everybody in America and elsewhere! " joerg